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CCD Committee FAQ

The following list of "Frequently Asked Questions" has been prepared to answer most inquiries that we receive. If there are questions that are not answered by this list of FAQ, or that result from further study, please let us know.

What kind of filters should I buy?

There are two options. If you are just starting out and wanting to keep things simple and less expensive, you may want to start with a V filter only. This will allow you to participate in our faint CV and LPV program. The particulars of that program are included in the "Faint CV and LPV Program" which is available from AAVSO headquarters if you do not have it. You want to ask for a V filter for CCD photometry that gives a Johnson V profile when used with a CCD. If you are purchasing a BVRI set, the RI were defined by Cousins and Kron. Some suppliers call their filter sets various combinations of Johnson, Cousins and Kron. They all have the same V response and the alternate names refer to the designation of filters other than the V filter in their series. The filter is different from a Tri-color green filter, in that it is more narrow in bandwidth and centered at a different frequency. The proper filter response is sometimes referred to as a "Bessell" response which refers back to a paper by Bessell, who published curves on filters in the IAU Colloquium 136 on Stellar Photometry. The filter must be properly red blocked. We have observers who have bought filters from Optec, Murnaghan, Compuscope, and Balzers. Only the first two are still in business, but they all work equally well. Both of these companies advertise regularly in Sky & Telescope Magazine. I expect new companies to offer filters in the future, and as long as you follow the above guidelines, you should get proper filters.

The second option can be pursued without a filter wheel and without transformations. The V filter is the same one that an individual would use in the BVRI set that will be discussed below.

What is BVRI or Four Color Photometry?

BVRI is a measurement procedure in which the magnitude is measured in four colors (Blue, Visual, Red, & Infra-Red), and then transformed to a standard system that observers from different sites using different cameras, ccds, telescopes, and software can merge results to high accuracy (much better that 0.1 magnitude). To transform data one must determine their transformation coefficients by taking images of a standard field like M67 to determine a correction factor to make results agree with the standard system. Results in the standard system are usually capitalized (BVRI) while results before transformation, also called instrumental magnitudes, are in lower case (bvri).

Why make measurements in multi-colors?

Four-color, or multi-color observations are valuable to determine the star color and change in color with brightness and phase. Astronomers can determine much about the physical changes occuring in the star from these multi-color observations.

How do I specify BVRI filters?

BVRI filters are specified the same as the v-filter described above.

What Software can I use?

Photometric reduction software is constantly changing, just like the entire software field. We have members using IRAF--a professional package that requires UNIX and a workstation. This program has many more features than you need for AAVSO programs. There are several PC versions such as Mira, CCD-IR, as well as others. They will all do the job. They all have much more capability than required. If your camera operating system can measure the intensity of a ROI (Region of Interest), then you can perform the reduction in a spreadsheet. If you would like a quick derivation of the measurements, contact AAVSO headquarters. It is not a canned procedure, but will help determine whether or not you are software inclined. We recommend that you contact those active suppliers who advertise regularly in Sky & Telescope Magazine and ask for software that will determine magnitudes by either aperture photometry or point spread fitting. The second feature, for future growth, is to ask about a routine to determine transformations. The transformations can always be done in a spreadsheet as long as you can determine the instrumental magnitude.

What camera should I use?

We have members using cameras. The only caveat is that cameras with antiblooming are not suitable for photometry at this time. Some cameras have the ability to turn off antiblooming. Ask the camera manufacturer about how this is done, and if it is suitable for doing photometry at the 0.1, 0.01, and 0.001 level. Most of the AAVSO programs are done at the 0.1 to 0.01 level. Almost no one can do .001 photometry at this time. We have members who use the Photometrics S-200, SBIG ST-6, and the cookbook camera. These devices do not have anti-blooming and work very well. I am sure that other cameras will work well, however we are not familiar with their observations at this time at AAVSO. We will add to the list of cameras as observations with different devices become available.

Is the Optec PFE 1a either useful or necessary?

Optec can advise you on the advantages of this device. None of our observers are using one at this time, so it is not necessary for everyone. Optec makes excellent photometric accessories and I am sure they are very useful for some observers.

Should I use 1", 1.25" or 2" Filters?

The filter size must be large enough so that it does not vinnette the CCD chip. If you are using a 2kx2k, then 1" filters will not work. Other important factors include the light cone shape (f-ratio of telescope) and the distance from the CCD chip to the filter. Your filter manufacturer may be of some help. I use a 10mm chip, a f3.7 telescope, 1.5 inches and 1 inch filters. They are "just" big enough, and I frequently use only the center 4mm of the chip since this gives me a 12x12 arc minute field size.

I have heard the the AAVSO BVRI Photometry is only good to 0.1 magnitude. Shouldn't I be able to do better than this?

It is true that when combining several observers all at different sites, none of which are photometric, using different cameras, different filters, different software, and different telescopes - the data occasionally has points that lie 0.1 magnitude from the mean. The standard deviation is typically 0.03 magnitudes over a four year period, which is no different from the published data of other sources. Remember that this is absolute accuracy, not just repeatability of a few points. Some of these observers have also measured superhumps of dwarf novae with amplitudes of .0025 magnitudes with periods of 90 minutes over a 3-4 hour period. This is instrumental magnitude and is not the same as an absolute magnitude measurement.

I thought CCD's were super linear. This does not sound like it has much better accuracy than a PMT photometer.

The reasons are not completely known. CCD photometry to .01 magnitudes takes much care. Those who push several milli-magnitudes must include many more error terms in their data reduction. I believe that what we see are small variations in transparency which may be color dependent and cause short term variations in the photometry. I have seen light curves from very experienced CCD photometrists that show a very steady light curve, and then for no reason, a point at .05 to .10 magnitudes from the population. I have also personnally had the experience of taking about 6 images, one right after the other while each exposure was the same, and taken in succession. Suddenly, when the third image came up on the screen, it was considerably better than the previous two. Curiously, the following three images were similar to the first two. The third image was outstanding, and could not be repeated. I believe that I experienced a particularly transparent few seconds during that exposure. I suspect that the same thing happens during phototmetric runs. I am sure that we even get small clouds that are virtually invisible, except to the CCD photometer to levels of milli-magnitudes.

 
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