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PNV J16143400-5330050: possible nova (10.5 mag) in Norma (discovered by Rob Kaufman)

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PNV J16143400-5330050: possible nova (10.5 mag) in Norma (discovered by Rob Kaufman)

PNV J16143400-5330050 (N:)

Discovery details:
R.A. 16h14m34.00s, Decl. -53°30'05.0" (J2000.0)
2018 October 13.414 UT, 10.5 mag (V)
Discoverer: Rob Kaufman (Bright, Victoria, Australia)

2018 10 13.414 UT
Object visible in 6 search frames taken by Rob Kaufman, Bright, Victoria, Australia. Not visible in image taken 12.422 Oct 2018, lim mag ~ 12.5. Position approximate. No minor planets or comets at this position; no variable stars in VSX. ASAS-SN database shows nothing to mag 15-16 in past 40 days. Nothing showing in DSS coloured image sourced from Aladin. Extinction of around 5 magnitudes indicated for this position. Discovery image here:

2018 10 13.61 UT
13' SE of V341 Normae (Nova 1983). Nothing was detected at the transient's position by the ASAS-SN Sky Patrol (Shappee et al. 2014ApJ...788...48S and Kochanek et al. 2017PASP..129j4502K) since 2016 Mar. 10; latest observation is 2018 Sept. 24.0695 UT, gmag. fainter than 15.9; complete 'light curve' at
--- Patrick Schmeer (Saarbrücken-Bischmisheim, Germany)

*** Precise astrometry, spectroscopy, and multiband photometry are urgently required. ***

Clear skies,

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PNV J16143400-5330050 Sequence

PNV J16143400-5330050 now has a  Sequence but in as much as not in the VSX yet you will have to use the coordiantes rather than the name to chart this FOV and have access to the sequence.

Another caution, until this is in the VSX you will also not be able to report your observations.

Tim Crawford, Sequence Team

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Visual confirmation by Paul Camilleri

Visual Observation:
2018 Oct 14.431ut, 10.5v,
AAVSO chart that was posted here (i.e. Facebook group 'PACA_Transients') used for reference stars.
16"F/4 reflector 76x.
Object had redish colour.

Paul Camilleri
Katherine NT

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better astrometry

I have observed this stars and found that the position is not correct.

The better position is RA 16 14 32.92

DEC -53 30 14.7

The BVI measurements are with the AAVSO database.


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better astrometry

Thanks Josch, good work!  The position in the TOCP discovery report was only approximate, hence the call for better astrometry.  Your observations are not showing up in the database yet - could you please repeat them here?  Thanks.  I imaged the object again with DSLR & lens tonight and it appears reddish.  Green channel estimate (~V) was 10.5 (10:27, 14 October 2018 UT).

Cheers -

Rob Kaufman (KBJ)

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Sorry had to leave before submissin

Had to leave before submission. Results are now in the AAVSO database

B= 11.78 +/- 0.01, V = 10.16 +/- 0,01 and I = 8.1 +/- 0,03

I uncertainty is worse due to the comp stars dim magnitude in I band.


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Re: better astrometry

Josch wrote: "The better position is RA 16 14 32.92 DEC -53 30 14.7"

VVV J161432.86-533014.38 (Jmag. 18.8, Ksmag. 17.3) is 0.6" away.

Patrick Schmeer (SPK)

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Seiichiro Kiyota's results

2018 10 15.3824 UT
Photometry results were B=12.23, V=10.96, Rc=9.67 and Ic=8.70 with 0.43-m f/6.8 CDK astrograph + FLI PL4710 CCD (T17, iTelescope.NET, SSO, Australia). Position end figures were 32.93 and 14.6 in R.A. and Dec. Strong H-alpha emission line was shown in low resolution spectroscopic images.
Seiichiro Kiyota (Kamagaya, Japan)

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Spectroscopic confirmation as a clasical Fe II nova

Please note that the correct name is "Nova Normae 2018".

E. Aydi, J. Strader, L. Chomiuk, S. J. Swihart, and K. V. Sokolovsky (Michigan State University):
"Optical Spectroscopy of Nova PNV J16143400-5330050 (Nova Norma 2018)" (ATel #12142)

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CBET has been issued

CBET 4568: 20181026 : NOVA NORMAE 2018 = PNV J16143400-5330050 has been issued, text not available to me.

Cheers -

Rob Kaufman  (KBJ)


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N Nor 2018 = PNV J16143400-5330050 in AAVSO Alert Notice 653

AAVSO Alert Notice 653 announces and reports on N Nor 2018 = PNV J16143400-5330050. Please see the notice for details and observing instructions.

Many thanks, and Good observing,

Elizabeth O. Waagen, AAVSO HQ

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