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R and I APASS magnitudes in Seqplot

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R and I APASS magnitudes in Seqplot

Good morning,

I apologize in advance for asking a question that may have been already answered in the past.

I see that the Seqplot software can generate BVRI sequences extracted from the APASS catalog. As far as I know, the APASS catalog provides B and V Johnson magnitudes and g, r and i Sloan magnitudes. Therefore, I would like to know how the R and I APASS magnitudes in Seqplot are obtained from the original APASS database.

Thanks, Girolamo

 

CTX
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Sloan Filter Conversions

 

I can't comment at the moment as to which sloan filter conversion formula's  Arne has been using for Rc & Ic but I can point you to a good website that offers the majority of the sloan filter conversion formulas in use with various surveys:

http://www.sdss3.org/dr8/algorithms/sdssUBVRITransform.php

I beleive Arne uses just the Sloan r & i filters to generate the Rc & Ic values.

As a sequence team member I use Jester to convert the Pan-STARRS sloan filters to BVRI when Rc-Ic < 1.15

On the other hand to convert the SDSS filters we use Lupton for the BVRI, I beleive this was the orignal choice of Arne.

While not a precise answer to your question the above should give you some idea of the process.

Tim Crawford

 

 

 

tcalderw
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Jester

Looking at the aforementioned SDSS transformation web page, it does not appear that Jester provides a way to recover Rc or Ic individually, only the Rc-Ic index.  There is a V-R formula, but since the 'c' designation appears elsewhere with R and I, I presume this V-R is Johnson.

Tom

 

HQA
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APASS Rc/Ic transformations

For seqcat/seqplot, we use the Jester et al. (2005) transformations for Rc&Ic, in conjunction with the already-available V.  Seqcat actually contains V and the astrophysical color indices (B-V), (V-Rc), (Rc-Ic) and (V-Ic).  Only when comp stars are selected does software convert the magnitude&colors into separate magnitudes by appropriate additions and subtractions.  Note that the color part of the Jester transformations is small, on the order of 0.09*index for (V-Rc) and essentially zero for (Rc-Ic), showing that the Sloan r'/i' filters are pretty close in bandpass to the Cousins equivalents.

Tom, Jester's equations are for Cousins Rc and Ic.  No professional that I know of uses Johnson Rj/Ij.

Arne

tcalderw
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Jester, etc

The SDSS transformation web page is inconsistent in its use of notation.  Jester's set of equations are listed as applying to UBVRcIc, and an equation is given for Rc-Ic.  No equation is given for V-Rc, it is specified as V-R.  Sloppy!

Anyway, I have another question.  If you go to the web page for u'g'r'i'z' -> ugriz conversion, you find the following:

"For SDSS calibration, the following color cuts are also imposed:

0.70 <= u'-g' <= 2.70 &&
0.15 <= g'-r' <= 1.20 &&
-0.10 <= r'-i' <= 0.60 &&
-0.20 <= i'-z' <= 0.40

The redward cuts are imposed because the u'g'r'i'z' standard star system is not well-determined for stars redder than about M0.  "

If you grind through the math,  r'-i' <= 0.60  translates to  Rc-Ic < 0.82  (approximately).  This is a more severe constraint than the  Rc-Ic <=1.15  Jester specifies.  It also seems a little hokey for Jester to put the color constraint on the output of the transformation rather than the input.  What is going on here?

Tom

 

GGM
APASS Rc/Ic transformations

I forgot to mention in my previous mail that I was actually referring to Rc and Ic magnitudes.

Thank you, Arne, for answering my question, and Tim for providing such useful information!

 

Girolamo Gallo

 

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